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Following his game-changing interview with Jim Jones about the crumbling of his relationship with Cam’ron, Funkmaster Flex sits with Fat Joe for a two-hour, completely open Q&A. In this rare access interview, Joe begins with explaining why DJ Red Alert (who he calls the original Funk’ Flex) played such an important role putting him on with “Flow Joe” as a radio station promo. He explains how even with the platinum that others have not attained, why Joe is humble and always on time and respectful to his Diggin’ In The Crates band-mates. He discusses Lord Finesse’s role as a great MC and leader of a really important crew. With that, Joe says that Big Pun (who appeared on albums by Showbiz & A.G. and D.I.T.C.) was an extended branch on that family tree (13:00). Fat Joe says Punisher knew to never be late to a Show, Finesse, or other Diggin’ studio session, and humbled himself to the New York giants.
The discussion moves from one crew to another, as Joe discusses the earliest days of Terror Squad (17:00). In a white Lexus (which Joe vividly remembers paying $49,000 for), he recalled meeting Pun in the mid-’90s. Punisher (then known as “Moon Dog”) was on the corner with a mutual friend of theirs, Triple Seis, and Cuban Link. Joe broke Pun away from his crew, and said that he should reach back to support them, after he was on. Joe and Flex reminisce about Pun’s early appearance on 60 Minutes Of Funk, Vol. 1. While HOT 97’s mainstay DJ refused proteges and crew affiliates (Fat Joe uses Shyheim Da Rugged Child and King Just as examples of the kind of artists Flex was refusing for his gold-certified LP), Joe convinced the DJ at D&D Studios for the resulting “Freestyle” to happen.
The MC says he never recouped, nor did Big Pun from the Loud/RCA Records contract. Joe blames Pun’s lavish lifestyle, and speaks on first-hand experiences about how spouses can spend. He recalls investing money to set up a chain of salons for Pun’s widow after 2000, and assumes the money was misspent elsewhere. Pun details arriving to Pun’s heart attack at a White Plains, New York Crown Plaza hotel. He says that Liza and Cuban have started smear campaigns anytime Joe has released an album to feed his own family. The MC also opens up about his own depression, which led to alcoholism, food addiction, and a dazed period between 2000 and 2002.
After addressing Big Pun’s survivors’ struggles, Joe opens up about his own financial woes, despite reportedly having a $2 million emergency nest egg. The BX bomber explains scaling down his entourage, stopping private plane charters, and no longer assuming that money could not run out (he does later detail taking 50 Cent and girlfriend out in Miami on a $50 million yacht for a two couples day-retreat). Joe traces the transition in his life and career, and explains why Roc Nation is his best situation yet.
After Joey’s interview with Flex, he also sat down with Wendy Williams with Remy by his side. During the sit down, Remy had the following to say about her issues with Nicki.
“It wasn’t necessarily the little subliminal stuff on records because I didn’t care,” Remy said. “I don’t care about records. I’d spoken to her before like, ‘Whatever you say, you supposed to say you the best and none of y’all better than me.’ It was the behind-the-scenes things that you people will never know about, as far as, trying to keep me off of red carpets, trying to make sure awards don’t go to me or she’s not going to be in attendance, or trying to get people to make bad reports about my album sales, or just anything that I’m doing to make me look less and make her look better. I have a problem. When you’re trying to stop my bag, when you’re trying to stop me from taking care of my children, now, I have a problem with that.”